Episode 71

071 JSJ JavaScript Strategies at Microsoft with Scott Hanselman


August 16th, 2013

57 mins 4 secs

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About this Episode


Scott Hanselman (twitter github blog)
Joe Eames (twitter github blog)
Aaron Frost (twitter github blog)
Charles Max Wood (twitter github Teach Me To Code Rails Ramp Up)

01:14 - Scott Hanselman Introduction

Community Program Manager for Web Tools at Microsoft
Azure and Web Tools
ASP.NET Runtime

03:17 - Microsoft and JavaScript

Microsoft Build Developer Conference
Scott Hanselman: Angle Brackets, Curly Braces, One ASP.NET and the Cloud

13:40 - The Cost of Web Development

Sublime Text
Visual Studio

18:17 - Libraries and Frameworks


24:14 - Innovation in Software


29:48 - Apps Supporting JavaScript

Create your first Windows Store app using JavaScript (Windows)
Visual Studio Express

34:14 - Windows and Internet Explorer


40:42 - Microsoft’s Attitude Towards JavaScript

Scott Hanselman: Azure for the non-Microsoft Person - How and Why?

45:58 - Open Source
49:12 - asm.js
52:05 - Angle Brackets Conference


The Wolverine (Joe)
ng-conf (Joe)
Cancún (Aaron)
@ngconf (Aaron)
Wistia (Chuck)
Mumford And Sons 'Hopeless Wanderer' Music Video (Scott)
Beyoncé Joins the Short Hair Club (Scott)

Next Week
Screencasting: Sharing What You Know Through Video

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CHUCK:  Hey everybody and welcome to Episode 71 the JavaScript Jabber show. This week on our panel, we have Joe Eames.

JOE:  Hey.

CHUCK:  Aaron Frost.

AARON:  Hello.

CHUCK:  I’m Charles Max Wood from DevChat.TV. And we have a special guest that is Scott Hanselman.

SCOTT:  Hello.

CHUCK:  Since you’re new to the show, do you want to introduce yourself really quickly?

SCOTT:  My name is Scott Hanselman. You can learn more about me on the internet by googling for Scott. I’m in an epic battle right now with the Scott toilet paper people. You’ll find me just below Scott toilet tissue. I’ve been blogging for ten years. More than ten years, 13 years. I work at Microsoft right now. Before that I worked in finance at a company called Corillian that is now Fiserv. I’ve been building big systems on the web for as long as the web’s been around.

CHUCK:  Wow. What do you do at Microsoft?

SCOTT:  I work in Azure and Web Tools. I’m a program manager. I’m in charge of the experience from file new project until deployment. I call myself the PM of miscellaneous. I spend time going through that experience making sure that it doesn’t suck. My focus is on web tools but also ASP.NET Runtime and what the experience is when you deploy something into Azure. That might be everything from what’s it like editing JavaScript in Visual Studio and I’ll find some issue and go and work with the guys that own that, or it might be someone’s trying to do something in Node on Azure and that experience is not good. I’m like an ombudsman or a customer liaison. But the simplest way would be to say I’m the community PM, community program manager, for web tools at Microsoft.

CHUCK:  Okay.

AARON:  Cool.

CHUCK:  So, is JavaScript your primary focus?

SCOTT:  I would say that my primary focus is just anything that makes the web better and moves the web forward. While I work for ASP.NET and most of my work is in C#,